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PostSubject: Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?   Thu May 16, 2013 10:33 am

Because apparently unborn fetuses can't *choose* to be alive, or something. So, should abortion be legal, paid for by the health insurers etc or, illegal because it's a form of 'murder' and our orphanages aren't full yet?

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PostSubject: Re: Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?   Sun May 19, 2013 2:09 pm

The only arguments against seem to be grounded in religious sentiment. I have spent many years considering religion, and spirituality, and think that it is too easy to destroy the ground that the people who oppose abortion stand on. The reasons given in favour of choice are quite extensive. The reasons given against are similar to the level of understanding held by the people who tried and killed witches.
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PostSubject: Re: Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?   Sun May 19, 2013 4:06 pm

I dunno man - there's always the idea that if people have the option to EASILY get rid of accidental pregnancies after a few months or so, they'll do it on purpose. ...Or something.

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PostSubject: Re: Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?   Sun May 19, 2013 10:28 pm

I think the argument may be more that people will be less cautious about avoiding getting pregnant. They probably would. But that, for me, raises a need to address how people see the act of disposing of a potential baby. The education and values of people would be the problem, not the availability to the recourse of abortion. While we are about it, we can discharge the value placed on sex and the hold of religious attitudes used as social constraints because we no longer would have such a problem with unwanted babies coming to full term. By removing the need for the censure, we can disempower those that use that stick to enforce their version of hierarchy via professions of 'morality'. The main responsibility would be to avoid suffering of individuals who had to endure the choice to kill a fetus. Hence education, not rules.

The values of the most of people who adhere to religions are based in fear and a denial of responsibility, either out of fear of their own self needing to carry the burden, or of a fear towards allowing others the freedom of choice. To say, it is all God, and I trust it to him, and you must too, is just a type of mental and moral cowardice. The only defence of it is that we would have no morality without religion, and this is disproved. Still debated, but nonsense, in my eyes. How can you argue that we didn't have morality before God came along? We wouldn't have survived. To argue that God gave it to us is the same as saying it is inherent, and makes the religion redundant. Both branches of that argument fall flat.



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